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Daichi Yamato
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Swamp Bucket Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:59:00 -
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u dnt have to use implants at all. its the same as not flying what u cannot afford to lose, dnt plug in what u cannot afford to lose.
and u say that working without ur implants means u perform very sub-optimally. that is a lie, u lose 5% performance if u have an expensive implant.
u could buy a cheaper implant and still get a 3% boost to whatever. or 1%, the difference is very small.
ur problem is that u are thinking u are at a loss if u dnt have implants, rather than thinking u are at a gain when u do have implants like u should be. not having implants does not make u train slower. u, in fact, train faster with implants. see? |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:41:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:one very angry post...
no idea who its directed at, but why does saying u dnt have to use expensive implants make u for or against implants?
personally i was just stating to the OP that the problem they face is self imposed. if u want to PvP u dnt have to have expensive implants. ur hardly any better off with expensive implants than u are cheap implants.
i'm neither for or against attribute or skill implants. if they were removed i wouldnt consider myself worse off, just not as well off and everyone else around me would be equally affected. but it must be understood, the advantage they give is a small one, especially when compared against their costs. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:08:00 -
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crazy ***** is crazy 
the advantage that implants give is still a small one. and not every old player is rich enough to use expensive implants, and not every new player is so poor that they cant. ive been playing for over two years and i've never used a +5 and yet some ppl specifically train and grind to get +5's ASAP. its more down to playstyle than wallet or age. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
644
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Posted - 2013.02.15 10:38:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:You don't realize it. (no **** not first time  ) But you just supported my idea. Idea to support PvP you seem to hate. For all players new and old. I prefer +5 idea because it's good for new players. But for sake of all is sacred removing without adding attributes is fine too. If there is nothing in my head valuable that provides me skill point gain then i can and i will pvp like many whenever i want without any uncessary penalty other than losing ship/skill hardwiring and clone. But if there is something or there can be something that can give me advantage i will keep it. Keep it and as long as it its 10x or more worth than my ship for pvp ... Sorry man still too complicated for you ?
if it means that much to u, then they are doing their intended job. if that keeps u out of PvP then that is a self imposed restriction. its not the fault of the implants. As for getting rid of implants and giving everyone +5 attributes encouraging more PvP, u may be right, but so would having every ship u lose replaced for free. with free, un losable ships a lot more ppl would PvP.
what makes eve PvP so exciting is the sense of loss, and the loss of ur expensive implants is part of that. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
645
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Posted - 2013.02.17 11:37:00 -
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saying u have to have expensive implants to keep up ur training time is a bogus argument as has been said.
ur acting like ur entitled to that training time. ur not. and passive skilling makes the fact that ur not on 24/7 irrelevant. if u cannot log on to swap between clones, the training lost between a +5 head and a +3 head over a week is negligible. ur warped perception where u assume u should be able to train as fast as everyone else as well as PvP is where u are going wrong. the truth is that this IS possible, its just costly.
if u want to PvP, then accept the gimped training time, or accept the risks and the costs that come with it. u cannot have ur cake and eat it. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
645
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Posted - 2013.02.18 01:14:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Just raw number of posts and topics about attribute implants would tell you there is something wrong. But i'm not gonna discuss with trolls. Keep those implants in game and reduced pvp players. Oh well ;). In before of more "everything is ok" ... so sad it's not.
there are plenty of AFK cloaking posts too. just like here its a load of risk averse players wanting to have all the benefits with no compromise. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
645
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:57:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote: just like here its a load of risk averse players wanting to have all the benefits with no compromise. By the looks of your character name I'm sure you "Banzai" on every group of ships you find out even knowing you're gonna die without killing one of them, because you're not a risk averse guy right? And also because you're not a risk averse guy you don't use safe spots to gtfo is things turn bad for you. You always pvp with HG Slave or Chrystal and named implants because you're not a risk averse guy, right? And because you're not a risk averse guy I'm sure you always faction/officer fit your pvp ships, amirite again? So you, the not risk averse uber player, can for once give us some lessons of humility indeed. Edit: Ho I just forgot you don't use OGB neither because you're so awesome not risk averse guy, right again?
what is this post even trying to say? the original poster wants the benefits of +5 implants, but none of the costs associated with it. trying to suggest ur training is gimped because u have +4's for a few days instead of +5's is just insulting to ones own intelligence.
u PvE with ur slaves? ur a genius! i've never owned a set of slaves or crystals, ive never had enough money to spend on such items. Nor a faction fit anything. I have a rattler that is a remnant from wealthier days and has a single faction omni tracker (oh sh!). I've never plugged in anything higher than a +4 or 3% implant. every implant beyond them has been sold to fund PvP. i can hand on heart say i've never had anything higher than a 4bil wallet, and that was from my unemployed days. it didnt last long.
I DO "Banzai" into fights, my most expensive clone is my PvP clone. **** K/d ratios, **** isk/loss ratios. at least i get out and have fun rather than crying that the items i bought and used of my own free will are preventing me from doing what i want to do. OGB? if i could afford it pal
get over urself. |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
646
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Posted - 2013.02.19 18:45:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
How hard it is to uderstand what a sandbox is?
u dnt have to use the most expensive implants. u dnt have to use implants at all.
but u can if u want and are willing to accept the costs. its a choice that has consequences.
what is un-sandbox-like about that? |
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